Before/After pics of Amsterdam

"Rustholes-Are-Weight-Reduction" (rustholes-are-weight-reduction) 02/24/2016 at 06:37 • Filed to: None

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So you don’t have to click on the Alissa Walker article:

http://sustainableamsterdam.com/2015/12/livabl…

By the way I think I’ve never known anybody that fits its name better.

Master Cylinder > Rustholes-Are-Weight-Reduction 02/24/2016 at 08:02

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I actually have no problem with efforts to ban cars from city centers. I am all for improving walkability of urban areas, and let’s be honest, does anyone even enjoy driving in a congested city center? Provide parking around the perimeter of the city and transit service within, I’m OK with that, but I have never seen any sane proposals for removing cars from anything except high-density urban areas.

jariten1781 > Rustholes-Are-Weight-Reduction 02/24/2016 at 08:05

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I haven't had time to click on the article, but I did slide the before after thing. All I could think was that the before looked like a great place to get work done and the after looked like a place that would be cool to hang out...neither looked 'better' to me...

Rustholes-Are-Weight-Reduction > Master Cylinder 02/24/2016 at 08:43

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It’s not the articles about banning cars from city centers that make me angry. Actually, were I to live in the city, I would probably have no car at all (and that why I live far from the city and have 4 cars). I mean who likes to sit in trafic jams and not finding a parking spot?
No it’s about articles like “Smartphones don’t kill pedestrians, cars do” where she complains with a backwards logic that distracted walking isn’t why people get hurt, but people driving in the city.
While those people wouldn’t get hit by a car while they update their Twitter status in a car free city, they would probably hit a pole or something. The problem here was not the cars+city part, but the distraction. If I where to hit a tree while snapchatting on my phone and driving, nobody would say it’s the tree’s fault.
In short, it is her obsession with car = evil that makes me not like her.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > jariten1781 02/24/2016 at 08:45

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Half are in black and white though, because things were bleak back then with cars and without colors.

Rustholes-Are-Weight-Reduction > jariten1781 02/24/2016 at 08:51

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I saw the first pic and thought, oh cool, a 305 break and a 504... oh, wait, that wasn’t the point :)

I don’t know, I wouldn’t want to live in either of those, but I guess the after picture is actually better to live in. I mean at least when you leave your shitty small appartment you have wide sidewalks to avoid everybody (I don’t like people, and/or living in the city).

wiffleballtony > Rustholes-Are-Weight-Reduction 02/24/2016 at 09:01

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I am pretty much anything that’s an outright ban. There are much more positive ways to encourage lifestyle change than a totalitarian approach.

McMike > Rustholes-Are-Weight-Reduction 02/24/2016 at 09:08

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I understand the point she’s trying to make, and there may even be parts of it I’m on board with, but sharing anti-car themed posts to an enthusiast blog is trolling, IMO.

Not sure who’s idea it was do to this, but it’s unlike the Jalopnik I remember. The Jalopnik I remember would write a response piece from the enthusiast’s point of view.

IMO, this isn’t the environmental, city planning, death-by-crosswalk, or political argument that annoys me. It chaps me up because it’s a hobby we enjoy very much, and cross-posting these anti-car pieces (valid discussions or not) undermines the “drive free or die” stand Jalopnik used to have on the front page.

This is currently in the “about” page. I’m guessing everything that moves you might have been expanded to include shoes and bicycles now.

we are obsessed with the cult of cars and everything that moves you.

I would edit this image if I knew who was responsible for the cross-posts. If anyone knows who is doing it, let me know and I’ll edit it.

Rustholes-Are-Weight-Reduction > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 02/24/2016 at 09:19

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Everybody knows color was invented at the beginning of the 20th century. And you could only see it when everything was still, you’d have to wait another 50 years to see colors in motion.

Master Cylinder > Rustholes-Are-Weight-Reduction 02/24/2016 at 09:29

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Yeah, I’m not a fan of the one or two of those articles that I’ve read. It’s definitely your fault if you step into traffic without looking and get nailed by a car, too.

jariten1781 > McMike 02/24/2016 at 09:32

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Justin popped in when I had the same question as you about the editorial ethos/consistency (don’t know that he’s the sharer, I’d imagine that’s a EIC call). His response was something akin to ‘it brings a different perspective and different voices aren’t bad’...which OK, but bringing them in without comment implies tacit editorial approval of the message which I don't think is the intention.

I’d also mentioned either doing a response, jalop editor intro, or putting it in a wrapper like they used to do so they’d have a consistent editorial vision on their vertical. Apparently the wrapper functionality is no longer in Kinja and (paraphrasing) ‘we wouldn’t post counterpoints to a co-workers article anyway it’s unprofessional’. That quote isn’t true (historically in media nor philosophically), but that’s apparently their position.

McMike > jariten1781 02/24/2016 at 10:00

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I would equate it to a really good informative piece about the head trauma and lasting injuries football players can receive during their career and wrapping it up in a “ban stupid sportsball” theme and cross-posting it to Deadspin.

It’s an issue, but there’s a way to present it to an paticular audience.

“Fuck your stupid hobby” rarely gets good results. :)

McMike > wiffleballtony 02/24/2016 at 10:03

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....pretty much against?

wiffleballtony > McMike 02/24/2016 at 10:10

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Yes, against. Clearly I am fully awake.

McMike > wiffleballtony 02/24/2016 at 10:17

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That’s what I thought. “For all bans” is a little extreme. :)

wiffleballtony > McMike 02/24/2016 at 10:18

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Well I am XTREME!

MonkeePuzzle > McMike 02/24/2016 at 10:59

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I’m gonna start my own jalopnik, with blackjack and hookers!